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Shelli SHELLI MAKES
Chico, California
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Fess up.  Which do you do first -- NOSE or EYES?

And... WHY?

I started out doing eyes first... but then moved to doing the nose first.  That way I can "see" more clearly how the features will sit, and if I torque the muzzle while stitching the nose, I can place the eyes to "compensate" for that in my eye placement.

shantell Apple Dumpling Designs
Willamette Valley Oregon
Posts: 3,128

Nose first...I leave the neck open so I can reshift the stuffing if I need to and I always do...pack it a little harder if I want, etc.  Eyes...then ears last.

Daphne Back Road Bears
Laconia, NH USA
Posts: 6,568

Eyes..... they are what usually steals your heart frist when you look at a bear. So, I do them first, place nose and ears symetrical to the eyes after. Besides, It's fun to see a bear go cross-eyed watching you sew his nose on!!  bear_laugh   bear_laugh   bear_laugh

I have 'test eyes' and 'nose templates' and t-pins for the ears so most times I play around with placement of all before I start permanantly attaching which ever part I go for first.


PS... Someone make me get back to work.......... please!!!

WildThyme Wild Thyme Originals
Hudson, Ohio
Posts: 3,115
Daphne wrote:

Besides, It's fun to see a bear go cross-eyed watching you sew his nose on!!  bear_laugh   bear_laugh   bear_laugh
PS... Someone make me get back to work.......... please!!!

Daphne... that is the funniest visual ever!!!!!! I love it!  Oh... and GET BACK TO WORK WOMAN!!!!

I'd say generally.... eyes first... I have a pretty standard place where my eyes go in my patterns, so the eyes are a "given"... for me there is place where they just look right to me.... then I do the mouth, then the nose.  Why do I do the mouth before the nose?  Because my mouths are usually sculpted pretty deep, they sometimes pull down the area where my nose will sit, right in the middle.  So, I have to sort of "pad" that middle nose area by taking extra stitches there... otherwise, my noses can go a bit concave in the center. 

Kim Basta
Wild thyme Originals

clare14 Country Bears
England
Posts: 3,066

I am definitely with Shantell  :dance:    Nose, then eyes, and ears are the very last touch!!   bear_thumb

psichick78 Flying Fur Studios
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 3,073

I also do the nose 1st. I find that helps me keep everything even and centered.

Kim, I wish i knew where my eyes were always going to go. Takes me forever to decide where they are going to go on that bear.

So after the nose, I do the eyes, than the mouth. Don't ask me why, I just do.
Interesting to hear how everyone else does it though...

Mo Beary Mo Bear Designs
Redcliff, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1,536
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I let them see me first, then hear me swear when I give them smell.  Make sense?

Interesting to hear what everyone else does.

Jane

Deb Upstate New York
Posts: 1,650

Nose.  BUT ... not without having positioned eyes with test eyes. 

Daphne wrote:

PS... Someone make me get back to work.......... please!!!

Yeah right!  Like we could make you do anything ... especially in the punchy mood you've been in lately.
bear_tongue

kbonsall Kim-Bee Bears
Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,645

Nose first.. I think the nose determines eye placement  bear_thumb

DebbieD Posts: 3,540

Nose for me, as I can't do the embroidery anymore  :redface:  So for me its a safety nose with ultrasuede covering firmly in place before the head is even completely sewn up.  Then onto the ears, although I usually have the holes punched for my eyes all ready (I'm another one who has a pretty fixed place for my eyes to be)  I can place the eyes in the 'sockets' and play around with the position I want for the ears.  I place the eyes last because I hide my knots for my eyes under the ears.

Marie_ Kiprie Bears
Yokohama, Japan
Posts: 2,735

eyes...then nose and ears.  bear_grin

Oh my, Daphne I was thinking same
thing !! I like to see my bear
watching me doing his/her nose and ears.   bear_laugh

Hugs/Marie

SueAnn Past Time Bears
Double Oak, Texas
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Eyes first, then ears, then nose/mouth.  Eyes first because - for me - the eyes will determine where the ears and nose go.

SunnieOne Sunnie Bears
Ridgecrest, CA
Posts: 1,167

Nose first.. then I sculpt the mouth.. then sculpt the eyes, then set the eyes. Then I go on to the body, legs and arms and the ears go on last.

Sonya

Love Bud Bears Love Bud Bears by Sandy
New Jersey
Posts: 224

I always make the nose first- then the eyes- ears- & mouth last. No real reason, just the way it seems to go. I'll play around with the eyes & ears adjusting them for hours & hours before deciding where they go. Then after I can't take it any more I'll make the final placement. I usually end up changing the mouth at least 5 times, I have a hard time getting the bears to look happy. No wonder it takes me forever to get one finished.

Aleta - The Silly Bear The Silly Bear
Portland, Oregon
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For me.....ears, set eyes with testers, stitch nose, airbrush, and then set the eyes in permanently.  Why?  Hmmmmm.  Never thought about why.  I don't know why!  This is a "things that make you go hmmmmm" thread.     bear_happy  bear_original

Warmest bear hugs,   :hug:
Aleta

fredbear Fred-i-Bear
Johannesburg
Posts: 2,243
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No I could not let the poor thing watch me, first the nose, with test eyes in place as a guide, (they can't see  you see  bear_grin ) head is un attached to body at this stage, so that I can still place filling in if needed , once nose is completed, eyes are then inserted, necked is closed off , eyes are pulled in and thread tucked away under the head closure, and then I attached the head to the body. Then the legs arms and body are filled and once the bear is sitting I will sew on the ears.
If it is a new design , then I will complete the head before attaching to the body.
bear_original
Lynette

jenny Three O'clock Bears
warwickshire uk
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Maybe I should try doing the nose first...I just like to see the expression the effect of the eye position creates...then do the nose accordingly. Even though all my bears end up with a similar expression there are definite differences in how they look in the end ...which must mean each position is a little different every time I make a bear. I tried marking the eye position on the pattern...but even though it should work it clearly doesn't for me...which is why I spend forever with the Tru-eyes positioning them till I am happy.

But as I often move the eyes totally after I do the nose...perhaps I should change my modus operandi!!!! Hmmmmmmm!!!!

melissa Honeythorpe Bears
Wellington, New Zealand
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see...it all just goes to prove that there is never ever just one right wa to make a bear!

99% of the time I do the eyes and then the nose...the exception being when I do a bear on a particularly fluffy fabric - then I tend to do the septum and a first start at the nose so that I have a good centre line, and then place the eyes, go back and finish the nose and then finally the ears.  That was how I did my avatar bear and I'm currently making a tiny one from vintage long pile and have just done the same thing

I always do the ears last so that the poor wee bear doesn't hear the swear words and lose his innocence too early.

matilda Matilda Huggington-beare
WA
Posts: 5,551

EYES,. I neelde felt faces Matilda

All Bear All Bear by Paula
Kent
Posts: 5,162
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I always do the eyes before the nose.  I like to use pins to find where the eyes are going to sit, fiddle around sculpting the bridge of the nose etc, then trim the muzzle.  Then I sink the eyes and re-site the ears (they always needs re-siting once the eyes have been drawn back!)  Finally I stitch the nose. 

You can bet your bottom dollar that once the nose is stitched, if the eyes are even slightly adrift it will show so on the rare (!!!) occasion that happens, I then take the eyes out and re-position them.

What a palaver!!  bear_happy  bear_grin

Christine Christine Pike Bears
Norfolk, UK
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Noses last for me - always.  Whether I'm stitiching or sculpting a nose I have to get everything else in place first.  I do eyes first, then ears, then the nose bear_original
Hugs,
Chris

carsoncreations Carson Creations
Macomb, IL
Posts: 252
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I start at the bottom and work my way up.

Nose first and then mouth.   The eyes are aligned according to the nose and the ears are aligned by the eyes.

With the nose and mouth first, the bear can tell me when I have gotten the eyes and ears right.

Hugs,

Wanda

Estelle Estelles canal bears and Tod Teddies
Todmorden West Yorkshire
Posts: 370

I'm an "ene" eyes nose earsthat way the bear can look right at me and show his disgust if I make a mistake, I leave the ears to last, it is best he can hear if I stab my finger doing the nose  :redface:  bear_grin

kbonsall Kim-Bee Bears
Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,645

Here is my order...

Finish sewing head
Pin ears on with just a pin so I can move them if need be
Do the nose
Do the mouth
Add the eyes....

The ears are the last thing I do after the body is done bear_original

midnight bears midnight-bears
England
Posts: 17

As I am still quite new to bear making and originally had trouble getting my noses even, so I start by making a template of the nose I desire, I pin this in the place I want it. I then pin the ears and use tester eyes. That way i can get an idea of how he may look when he is finished and I can tweak his face if needed b4 doing any permanent damage. (which is always handy lol).

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