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Jennie Teddybears Sweden
Gavle, Sweden
Posts: 751

I'm thinking about getting an airbrush to my copic markers... it looks like a lost of fun and the shading looks so smooth! I want that too!  bear_wub
How many of you uses an airbrush? Is it hard to learn? Is it a mess??

Laurie Laurie Lou Bears
Norfolk
Posts: 3,246

I have used the pens on their own and also bought an attachment that goes with a can which is the cheapest sort that you can buy(around £20) but I found that it is no good for small airbrushing areas as you cannot control the flow.So if you have the money you are better off with the more expensive ones that do control the flow but I think they are at least £150.I will have to save my pennies bear_ermm
Laurie :hug:

Judi Luxembears
Luxemburg, Wisconsin
Posts: 7,379

Jennie, Airbrushing is a fantastic way to add soft beautiful accents to your work but NOT with the Copic system!!!!  I have been airbrushing for more than 22 years with a commercial airbrush.  I tried the Copic system just to see how it works...YUCKIE!!!  You cannot control the pressure or the color flow at all!  It also leaves a tacky feel to the mohair.
I do love the Copic markers for accenting small areas around the eyes but NOT with the airgun...I think that system is just not complete.  Elke Block fro Edniburgh agrees with me.  Infact I met her at the bear show in San Duego last weekend and now she wants to get more into the commercial airbruhes as the Copic is just not they way to go for serious artists.

Okay I'm off my soap box.  If youwant to know more please let me know and I will be happy to help you.

Judi Luxembears
Luxemburg, Wisconsin
Posts: 7,379

oh...and you also asked if it is fun?....110% YES!  I love airbrushing.  There is nothing else out there where you can get the soft blended effects as you can with airbrushing.

It does take some time to learn and lots and lots of practice but in my opinion it is well worth the effort and financial investment. :dance:

Jennie Teddybears Sweden
Gavle, Sweden
Posts: 751

Thanks Judi! So, if not to use the Copic Marker airbrush, what should I use? Any special brand?

Laurie Laurie Lou Bears
Norfolk
Posts: 3,246

I had noticed that the fur was tacky when I used the copic system.What sort of price range Judi are the systems that you use and are the colours from special inks?
This is the nice thing with teddy talk that there are people who have been doing things a lot longer than us novices and can give us advice that saves us from making expensive mistakes and know which are the better products on the market.
Laurie :hug:

Jane Perala Jane Perala Designs Ltd.
Vancouver Island, B.C., Canada
Posts: 819

Ditto Judi's comments. 
I love my airbrush, although I wish I could use it like Judi does!!! 
I used the Copic system too and found the same - that is blobbed when you started it and then almost no colour after that, until you started it up again - another blob!
So, yes, go for an airbrush - it takes practice (and I'm still doing that), but it is great.

Jane P.

Judi Luxembears
Luxemburg, Wisconsin
Posts: 7,379

I swear by the Paache H.  It's a great airbrush to learn on.  It's a single action which means by pressing a top button you get air flow and paint at the same time.  Dual action , like the Paasche VL, which I also use, is another great airbrush.  For a beginner, I would highly recommend a single action like the Paasche H.

Tiger number one I used a Badger Dual action.

Tiger number two I used a Paache VL Dual action.

Tiger number three I used a Paasche H single action.  I am telling you this to show that you can get the same results from any of these types of airbrushes.  You have to learn how to use it and prepare the paints, as this is crucial for successful results.

I use a CO2 cylinder tank and have used this for 22 years very successfully.  I can't give you any advice about brands of air compressors becasue I don't use one.  I hate the nosie they produce.  I do know they make quieter one's now so I may give one a try.

Paints:  I always use  high quality professional acrylic's .  You want to use the best quality so the pigments won't fade ,plus they run smoother through the airbrush.  I use Liqutexx and Golden brand paints.

I hope this helps bear_flower  bear_thumb

Donna Donna's Duin Bruins
Burbank, CA
Posts: 900

Jennie,
You can use the copic markers with a compressor.  Don't use the air cans they give you bursts or spurts that do not give you a nice finish.  The compressor that I have, has a control that allows different amounts of air to go over the tip of the copic marker.  If you already have the copic markers, you might as well get the compressor to use with them.  Then as you progress you can then pick up the airbrush that will give you a different effect.  To turn the copic markers into an airbrush system all you will need is the grip and your compressor or air tank.  My thought is that if you already have the copics use what you have and grow from there.  You will be able to use the compressor or air tank with the airbrush when you are ready to make that leap.  I can get you the grip and the attachment you need to go to a compressor or air tank if you need help.
Donna

Judi Luxembears
Luxemburg, Wisconsin
Posts: 7,379

Renae,  there should be no condensation with CO2 as there is no mositure in it.  Hhhmmm I don't know why you're getting condensation.  If you do use an air compressor then you will need a water trap since air contains H2O and will mess up your work with bursts of water without the water trap.

Jare Hares & Bears Jare Hares & Bears
Polo, IL
Posts: 983

I use a CO2 cylinder tank and have used this for 22 years very successfully.  I can't give you any advice about brands of air compressors becasue I don't use one.  I hate the nosie they produce.  I do know they make quieter one's now so I may give one a try.

Tell me about it... I hate the noise too. MaeLynn covers her ears and runs into the other room, when mom turns that silly thing on. I would like to try the CO2 tank.
The compressor that mom has now cycles... whr... whr... whr... to maintain pressure. When she uses the airbrush it runs to maintain the pressure. When she isn't using the airbrush it cycles. While it is quiter than her last model, we still need to shout at each other.

Is there anything I should be concerned about when using a CO2 tank? Like ventilation? I mean I would hate to die from airbrushing my bunnies beacuse I was breathing CO2. :crackup:
Wow that could be the cover of Teddy Bear Review... :photo:
Artist passes away while airbrushing...
Polo, IL -
The corner has yet to determine the exact cause of death but suspects airbrush and CO2 tank...
Complete story on starts on page 33.

kbonsall Kim-Bee Bears
Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,645

Artist passes away while airbrushing...
Polo, IL -
The corner has yet to determine the exact cause of death but suspects airbrush and CO2 tank...
Complete story on starts on page 33.

:crackup:  :crackup:

Dilu Posts: 8,574

I took a class on it from our own JUDI and then got a bunch a throw away cheap bears to practise on and i am still a chicken!

I think all of the ladies who do it are fantastically talanted and BRAVE!!!

one of these days...........

practise is the key word Jenny and I applaud you for thinking of trying something new.....but practise on Goodwill, or cheap promotional type bears before trying it on your own hard earned bear.....

Jare Hares & Bears Jare Hares & Bears
Polo, IL
Posts: 983

I say just jump in  a do it! That's what I did on the first bears we ever tried it on.
They were less expensive synthetic bears that mom had made. They came out looking like little German Shepard puppies.
At the next show they were the first bears to sell.
They really turned out sweet, just wish I had taken pictures of them.

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