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Cleathero Creations Dec 7, 2006

I am wanting to design a bear that is kneeling or sitting with the legs sitting out to the side curved close to the body though

see here if you need a visual

http://www.seameo.org/vl/thaiet/images/thaiet5.jpg

Any ideas?

Jodi Falk Dec 7, 2006

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Good luck !!! Looks hard.You may have to design a pattern then if it doesn't tuck enough on the side tack it so it will with a strong thread and pull till it is close enough. Understand ?

MerBear Dec 7, 2006

I have a pattern for that I think from one of the old Australian Teddy magazines. In any case - the legs were drawn in a kneeling position and the opening was on top instead of behind. Come on .... you can do it!
:dance:
Marion

matilda Dec 7, 2006

I saw a miniature pattern in that position in one of my bear magazines.
I'll hunt it out if you think it may help in the design your after. It would I think give a general idea in how to approach the leg design.
Just let me know

Shelli Retired Help Advisor, Banner SponsorDec 7, 2006

And don't forget that you can always take a few darts or add a few stitches once everything is stuffed and sewn, to make it "just right."

Cleathero Creations Dec 7, 2006

Thanks all

Marion and Wendy if you have it that would be great.  See how different people do it would help me heaps.
Toby I may have to check Neysa's website as well.

Shelli  :doh: I I forget how handy adding those extra stitches are. 

I can tell there will be a few prototypes on this pattern before I do the real thing.

bearhug07 Dec 8, 2006

How about using flex limb and then needle sculpting the legs into position, I have done this for a bear kneeling on her knees but never tucked in like that.......

I think you will find issues with stuffing the "bottom" leg as such and the bear will tend to topple to the side....you may have to under suff the body in some way on the lower half.......or use plastic pellets in there to "shape" the side a bit ......if that makes sense.

There will lots of problems to over come good liuck.

matilda Dec 8, 2006

This is a miniature  by Sonya Heron. I found the turn of leg interesting.
I'll just put the pic here. I think I'd get into trouble if I put the pattern.
I tried emailing but I couldnt send the pic with it.

Cleathero Creations Dec 8, 2006

hmmm it isan interesting turn.  I like that alot. Looks neat and in proportion.

MerBear Dec 8, 2006

That's the shape I was thinking of Bronwen. The opening would be in front for stuffing, etc.

Marion

Cleathero Creations Dec 8, 2006

Great minds think alike then hey?

Thankyou for all the great help again.  This is going to be a real challenge for me!!

matilda Dec 8, 2006

Yep!! Marion and I are twins separated by time  

plushkinbear Dec 11, 2006

I found a picture too!
Would be interesting to make !  :hug: 

matilda Dec 12, 2006

Now that one is cute !!!! He looks awfully tiny though

jenny Dec 12, 2006

If you do a  bent leg... but slightly longer from hip to knee...then wire it or use loc-line that may work.....?

patsylakebears Dec 12, 2006

Bron I made this one earlier this year

Cleathero Creations Dec 12, 2006

Oh of course Patsy,  Knew I had seen it somewhere.  That's what happens when you disappear for ages you can't remember anything. 

Yey I have ideas galore now this has been great thanks.

rkr4cds Dec 16, 2006

Hi - I was looking for something else tonight and Lo & Behold! Found a sketch that I couldn't have located yesterday if my life depended upon it. Such organization, I have  LOL!!!

I made this a dozen years ago, when I was struggling to put a bear in a kneeling position. Have used the theory many times since for different leg positions.

Picture our skeleton: in most bodies the hip, knee and ankle joints line up.
In this leg template for a 3" bear. I put dots at the joint positions. Then drew a straight line connecting them.
Cut through the knee and ankle joints right up to the middle, leaving a few threads of the paper intact.
Carefully slide the joints back and forth to get the shape you wanted.
Draw new lines to round out the joints (the knee cap here).
Sometimes the individual sections of thigh or calf will be out of proportion (happens more in minis where there's less room to work) and need to be lengthened a bit.
Sew one up in muslin first to check.

Arms can be realigned or redirected in the same way.

Cleathero Creations Dec 17, 2006

Bobbie thankyou very much for that! 
There is so much talent out there and so willing to share.  Thankyou