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Pipa UK
Posts: 971

hehehe thanks for the laugh Penny,i neded it  :D

Oh yes, i can't not drool over my choccie  :P

Our Dr's are beyond pitiful tho  bear_ermm they have no clue seriously. 9 years ago my brother had an  absess in his chest wall cavity, pneumonia, septecemia. a hard lung and a broken rib & collar bone and what did our Dr's say he had when we called them out?? a BRUISE !! can you believe that ??.. he died 9 weeks later aged 25 so i really do not trust or like my dr's at all and i really detest going there and i have no faith in them  :(

15 years ago My Grandfather also had Cancer of the spine, the leg and the prostate. our dr's (same ones as my brother) said "nothing wrong with him, he is pulling the wool over your eyes" and he died too, i can't trust them with anything and urgh, i just find it SO hard going to the doctors  :(

And the list of blunders goes on and on with our Dr's




gotobedbears wrote:

GO TO THE DOCTORS !!!!

It should'nt keep happening Pipa, everyone should be able to drool over choccies

Get it checked sweetie

Penny - (Auntie Pen knows best)

Daphne Back Road Bears
Laconia, NH USA
Posts: 6,568

Pipa, WHERE DO YOU LIVE???? Want to be sure I don't move there and need medical attention!!!

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

I'm in the UK Daphne, I avoid Dr's like the plague honestly unless im dying i wont go !    bear_shocked

Helena Bears-a-Bruin!
Macclesfield, UK
Posts: 1,291

Gosh Pipa, I can't blame you for not wanting to go to the dr.s given all the bad experiences you've had  :(.  But please don't let these tragedies colour your view of the entire profession. I often research whatever I'm visiting my GP about (usually sinus related in my case). This upsets some GP's but not others! But it makes me feel a little more in control of what's happening :).

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

I agree there Helena about checking things out before you got the GP my physiotherapist once told me that is a good thing to do even though Dr's dont like it, he once said to me "dont tell them you found information on the internet, they dont like it".. my bad experiences dont end with the GP they have been carried on through hospital after hospital Dr's aswell  bear_sad I could write a book that would shock and make people say "that cant possible be true" but it is and has made me the way i am now !

One time i went to my GP about a back problem and he simply sat there and said to my face "well what do you want me to do about it" so i answered back "you are the doctor. you tell me" and he said "if you dont like it the door is over there" and that is word for word, i really cannot visit these people and as much pain as i am in, i dont care i still wont go i'll take the pain LOL!

My Dentist on the other hand is a GEM! hehee so it's not all doom & gloom  bear_thumb

Helena Bears-a-Bruin!
Macclesfield, UK
Posts: 1,291

Well, I understand your situation Pipa, and have become more wary as I get older (which is why I do the research, so I can ask a few informed questions....). My mum had various negative experiences with GP's in her life. One time in particular she was treated for an infection which turned out to be cancer. And another time I was told something by the doc that I knew was totally untrue! Perhaps I should have mentioned my biology degree bear_grin. But the way I see it, doctors are human, and the vast majority really do want to help as best they can...sometimes we might have to push a little for the right treatment, or insist on what we believe is right (we know our own bodies best, afterall). I have a lovely GP at the moment, and I'm not afraid to ask or say anything - and she's open if she's not sure about something. That's the way it should be imo!

Glad to hear you've got a good dentist. Now that's a whole other story... bear_grin bear_grin bear_grin

gotobedbears Posts: 3,177

BLIMEY O'RIELLY PIPA  bear_shocked

Are you sure about you living in the UK and not deepest darkest Timbucktoo?

If i had a Dr. like that he would have been looking down the wrong end of catheta by now darlin'

:twisted:

I strongly advise you to go to your local ER and get them to look at it - forget about the poor sods lying in pools of blood on the ER floor, they're probably just lager louts after a nights boozing anyway- that's what hospitals are for (although they do their level best in the UK to pretend that they're not).

I'm getting quite angry for you now Pipa - what an old Git your Dr. is! Would you like me to come around and give him a bunch of fives?

Remember - when it comes to doctors, YOU'RE the boss not them

Nurse Pen - the one with the ladder in her tights and the squeaky shoes  bear_innocent

p.s. i'm not a real nurse Pipa but my does other half does so love the uniform........................

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

oh my goodness about your mother that's dreadfull was she okay after the Cancer? did they catch it in time ?? !! yep they are human i try to make allowances for that but there is only so many deaths you can take in your family before your trust , faith and respect completely vanishes in them,  BUT saying that i do belive our GP's are just INSANE or something and i always think "this time will be different" with each occasion. one day they might prove me right  bear_rolleyes . my sister when she was 12. had appendicitis and they burst, the GP turned around and said to my Mam when My Mam said she suspected it was her appendix the GP said "she's not in enough pain to have appendicitis" sure enough gets her to the hospital they burst as  they were removing them. makes you laugh !

It sounds like you have a wonderful GP. yep i think its great you can ask quetions and she is helpful and stuff. ours are the complete opposite!!

Ohh dentists. i have no horror stories with them  bear_laugh  , do you  ?  bear_grin

Helena Bears-a-Bruin!
Macclesfield, UK
Posts: 1,291

bear_grin What are we like? Comparing horror stories!!!

Mum was ok that time - yes, they caught it in time. She got fed up of the antibiotics and insisted on seeing a specialist, who made the diagnosis (she had a prior history of cancer too, so wouldn't you think that might have rung a few alarm bells?!). Geeze.

I'm with Penny. If your glands get really bad it might be better to take a trip to the A&E. I havemore faith in hospital doctor's myself, because they generally get more contact with a wider range of ailments. More 'hand's on', especially in A&E. I know you've had bad hospital experiences too, though...  bear_sad  Unfortunately nothing's perfect! Just don't suffer for too long without doing something!

(As for dentist stories, nothing too bad to report - I just don't like 'em,  bear_grin. Eek!)

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

PENNY  bear_grin   bear_grin   bear_grin  you are making my ribs ache with laughing so much !  :angel:

Oh yeah they defintley deserve a bunch of fives. many years ago now my mother threated to put him through the window once after yet another bad episode that landed her in hospital with blood pressure so low they couldnt read it 

Actually one of them (there is more than one they are all hapless) one is due for retirement soon  bear_thumb saying that tho. his replacement is the one that told me to get out if i didnt like what i was hearing haha ! ahhh. we've replaced one bad coin with another . EEK!

Our Local ER department is too far away to get too  bear_grin i took my brother  there once and they said "if you keep coming here all you will get is MRSA"  seriously. i said "he's only been here once. 28 years ago when he was born.  bear_shocked oh boy did that Dr get a rollocking from me that day, i took her out the room to one side and CALMLY put her in her place, that felt good! might have to try that with our GP  :twisted:

I'm beginning to wonder if i live on another planet.. am i really an alien living an illusion of earth perhaps.. Hmmmmm  :/

Nurses uniforms huh ??   bear_tongue

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

Gosh i am SO pleased your mother was okay after the Cancer ! Lucky she insisted on seeing the specialist !! that's the trick is being persistant!!! Oh my. she even had a history of it. you would think that would be the first thing they checked for. :shakes head:

as much as i dont like any Dr's i have more faith in hospital ones too , i'll figure something out if it keeps happening  :D

AWW hehe sorry to hear you dont like dentists, they are one people i dont have a problem with hehe


Helena wrote:

bear_grin What are we like? Comparing horror stories!!!

Mum was ok that time - yes, they caught it in time. She got fed up of the antibiotics and insisted on seeing a specialist, who made the diagnosis (she had a prior history of cancer too, so wouldn't you think that might have rung a few alarm bells?!). Geeze.

I'm with Penny. If your glands get really bad it might be better to take a trip to the A&E. I havemore faith in hospital doctor's myself, because they generally get more contact with a wider range of ailments. More 'hand's on', especially in A&E. I know you've had bad hospital experiences too, though...  bear_sad  Unfortunately nothing's perfect! Just don't suffer for too long without doing something!

(As for dentist stories, nothing too bad to report - I just don't like 'em,  bear_grin. Eek!)

gotobedbears Posts: 3,177

DENTISTS - THE RICHEST & MOST SADISTIC/MASOCHYSTIC LEECHES TO EVER WALK THE EARTH...and that's saying something considering all the Lawers and Estate Agents around

Don't talk to me about dentists - the last time i discussed havig work done they quoted me £20,000 !!!!!! YES your gorgeous orbs do not deceive you, that IS £20,000 you see before you

I think the guy just wanted to upgrade to a new Jaguar rather than the old battered Porshe he was driving at the time

Hahahahaahahaah - no way Hose'

Penny - likely to be toothless soon  :bday:

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

bear_grin  bear_grin  bear_grin  20,000 Oh Jeeze. what were you gonna get for your 20,000 ? a whole new set of Gnashers like what the movie stars have ????

Well you could always revert back to the method my ole mother used to use on me as a kid. a piece of toilet roll wrapped around the tooth and a sharp tug  got my wobbly teeth out  bear_grin  and didn't cost a penny .. oh apart from the scrap of toilet roll which is nowhere near 20,000  :P

a porsche ? WOW! My Dentist looks like he just got out of short trousers, kindly informed me that he goes camping (looks like he just crawled out of his tent on some occasions), his hair is like a flyaway birds nest and he surfs but he's a star ! one of the best dentists i've ever had. a bit nervous tho. he took an xray of my teeth once and bashed the small plastic thing they shove in your mouth into my gums with his knee. he did apologise tho so that's one up on Dr.s !  bear_laugh

Oh dear. i do hope we dont have any lawyers.estate agents. Dr's or dentists in the group  :redface:

gotobedbears Posts: 3,177

Yes Pipa, i was going to have the works!

A true Hollywood smile but it turns out that it would actually be cheaper to fly to Hollywood, stay in a hotel and get the work done there than it would be to have it done here; so i'm considering that option.
I'm not vain you know, i had a car accident when i was young and my teeth took a bashing and now strange bone formations are beginning to develop and need treating - my dentist just was'nt interested - as long as your mouth is'nt about to explode with plaque most dentists don't give a damn to be honest or there would still be loads of NHS dentists i suppose.

I went to a private clinic for an estimate - i did'nt realise that i could buy a 3 bedroom house in Romania for the cost of a mouthful teeth! Oh Well you learn something new everyday  bear_rolleyes

Off to bed now Pipa,

Penny

p.s. how's your dribble coming along?

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

bear_grin Oh Penny  !! get yourself booked into an NHS dental hospital.. mind you. in those places it's more like a torture chamber than a dental examination room, you also end up getting fobbed off with the students using your gums to further thier knwoledge which is a bit scary ,

20,000 my goodness i would have fainted on the floor. my GP offers botox for £400 a go

1 experience i had with a dental hospital (yep here comes another one hehe) I was laying in my chair with this dentist telling me i ate too much steak (which  i answerd with a laugh and informed him i couldnt afford to buy steak) Hmm, anyways in walked a group of  6 students all having a good peek and pointing at my xrays going ooo and ahhh and then one of them went "oh what's that?" and pointed to something on the xray and the dentist hushed her and said "thats nothing".. i never did find out what that student saw.. maybe it was nothing  bear_grin

As for my dribble  :redface: it's great now. whatever was blocking it must've passed  :dance: now i can continue drooling over chocolate again   :cake:  (thanks for the cake smiley whoever made it)

gotobedbears Posts: 3,177

Glad your Glands are working
and you can eat again
no chocolat for the past few days
it must have been a pain!
But now they're back
there'll be no lack
of Mars Bars
and of Snickers  :cake:

Penny  bear_tongue

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

Oh Mandie  bear_grin i think that could be the red wine hehehehe !!

Mandie wrote:

Oh Pipa you poor girl you...hey! what about a large glass of good red wine, not food but it might numb the pain  :pray: it's not funny I suffer greatly with blocked sinus and i walk into doors ( or am I drunk ) LOL anyway it's not funny it makes me feel sick and dizy and it drives me up the wall! only ever had it when I moved from Kent which is very dry to a very wet N Ireland..poor doggy has he been out for a walk or is he sitting with his legs crossed?

Hugs Mandie

Pipa UK
Posts: 971

I thought i would have double my usual chocolate intake today to make up for lost time over the past few days, and they did say Chocolate was kind of good for you  bear_tongue

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