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psichick78 Flying Fur Studios
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 3,073

Okay, so here I am practicing drawing my own patterns. It's quite fun actually, and now I never want to use another artists pattern again. Okay, not never. but you get the point.

But I was wondering, the pattern that you are using right now, assuming that you designed it. If you were to take that pattern, and sell it without making any changes to it whatsoever, would someone be able to make it? What I mean is, do you have to fiddle getting the footpads in, or to fit the gusset etc?
Or does it all just fit one way.
I know i've made several patterns from other artsts that don't fit too well. The gusset is to short, foodpads to small etc. I'm thinking that the artist just has their own way of putting things together, and it works for them.

Am I Making sense??

Thanks guys for your input.

Heather

ellen ontario, canada
Posts: 324

good question!  my patterns all seem to fit very well - without too much "fiddling".  i have had other artist's patterns not be perfect and like you say - they must have their own way of fitting things....their patterns make perfect sense to them but maybe not us.  my gussets are always too long.  i haven't mastered that technique yet - of getting hte perfect gusset tail length!   bear_wacko

Helena Bears-a-Bruin!
Macclesfield, UK
Posts: 1,291

I actually like to make the gussets a little bit long, as a kind of insurance  bear_grin I trim the excess off when I make the head up. The foot pads are pieces I find the most tricky to get exactly right and I do have one or two patterns where I know I need to cut an extra few millimetres off one end....one of these days I'll just redraw the pattern to the correct size!!!  bear_tongue

Judi Luxembears
Luxemburg, Wisconsin
Posts: 7,379

When you are sewing, depending how you insert your needle, you can unknowingly be easing one side of your sewing...hence, one side of your head gusset is longer then the other.

In many cases, a bit of easing is necessary around curves.  I like a well fitted pattern.  I match everything up and is I have to redraw a pattern them I redraw it .  It is worth the effort  to get it all fitting propery for future bears. bear_wub bear_wub bear_thumb bear_flower

jenny Three O'clock Bears
warwickshire uk
Posts: 4,413
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My pattern pieces fit well...but sometimes if i am over generous with the seam I have to do a bit of easing...I couldn't be doing with a pattern that was a pain every time I made it up.

gotobedbears Posts: 3,177

I agree with Judi here. How you actually sew the pattern makes a lot of difference.

Pinning is the key here Heather, pin the little blighter to within an inch of his life before you begin to sew. There is always a little 'play' in a pattern as the pile makes it slip a bit.

When i began making bears i started with a bought pattern - bloomin' 'eck it drove me nuts, nothing fitted!
Since making bears from my own patterns for a while now i realise that the pattern was'nt rubbish it was because i did'nt know how to manipulate the fabric, pin properly and sew, like Judi says, a particular way.

My patterns fit together no probs - it's me who makes the boo-boos  :redface:  But i think there is always a little easing to be done on paw pads - they have to fit TIGHT or they are saggy and you end up with a fat foot like an elephants' - ooo-er  :(

Penny  bear_wacko

Judi Luxembears
Luxemburg, Wisconsin
Posts: 7,379

bloomin' 'eck it drove me nuts

Penny, you are so funny!  That tickeled my English roots bear_laugh bear_laugh bear_laugh bear_laugh

Helena Bears-a-Bruin!
Macclesfield, UK
Posts: 1,291

I forgot to say I use a lot of 'stay' stitches. The little 'uns are too little to pin!  bear_grin

gotobedbears Posts: 3,177

Yes i've done that before Helena  bear_wacko

I got so fed up with having to cut the end bit off that i started to just incorporate the excess into the head, do you know? - it turned out to be the best head pattern i made!!!

It's nuts aint it sometimes? - you do all the calculations then you say "oh blow it" and it turns out better than you thought!

I love the pattern process - but it does drive you nuts sometimes. I have a full-size cat pattern that i have been working on for about 18 months, it is still in it's 'crash test dummy' stage even now, but when i finally get the hang of the little beast - it should be good......

....hopefully  bear_wacko  bear_wacko  bear_wacko

Penny  bear_wub

Kirsten So. Cal.
Posts: 302
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All mine fit perfectly. I am too picky to have to fuss each time. I do leave my gusset a tad longer, 1/2 an inch. I like having the wiggle room there. the rest should fit if the same seam allowance is used all over.  bear_whistle

Helena Bears-a-Bruin!
Macclesfield, UK
Posts: 1,291

Haha Penny, I like your term 'crash test dummy'!!! I'm with Kirsten, I like the wiggle room that extra bit of length in the gusset allows. If you do ease it in, it can provide a nice shaped head. Or more often I trim it off/turn it under and use it to provide a neat finish around the cotter pin. It depends on the fabric. With the mini's, a little 'give' can turn out to be a lot in the final bear...so a good fit and careful stitching are even more important in my short experience.

But I still 'wing it' sometimes, and it can somtimes result in a better shape! (*winks at Penny*  :P)

gotobedbears Posts: 3,177

...so a good fit and careful stitching are even more important

Yeah Helena - which is why YOU do the minis and i do the bigguns hoo hoo hoo

Penny  bear_wacko

Gatehouse Bears Gatehouse Gallery
Lockwood, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 227

It drives me crazy when patterns don't fit, and I couldn't go on until I'd fixed it, but I purposely put in abit of easing in the muzzle and the skull to get the fullness I want.
Like Penny I pin, pin, and repin, till I get the easing symetrical. 

The footpads are different, I couldn't stand it if the pad didn't fit perfectly each time, you'd be putting me in a padded room if it kept happening :wacko:

I do know people who sell patterns that don't fit and in one case its because she doesn't care if people can't get it to fit, because then they'll come to her classes to learn how to fix the problem. :twisted:

Glenys

Dilu Posts: 8,574

Well,  since I am getting a pattern ready to actually give to people to use in a class it has made me evaluate exactly how I do my patterns.  And I found that because they are mine and I have sewn for 40 some odd, no mostly odd years I have a much more casual attitude, and don't have problems.

BUT

since it is going on someone elses web site, and since I want to be asked back, I decided to really, carefully evaluate each and every piece.

Granted on the back of the head gusset I do want some scrunching in on one side and pullling on the bias on the other I will have to consider how do explain that.

But I decided better safe than sorry and I am going with the premise that whoever makes this pattern has never sewn a stitch before in her life- and I want everything to fit perfectly.  (Like what if someone says "what bias- I'm not biased"   :dance:

:hug:

Dilu

thats for gollies

the teddy patterns don't have the same problem- but I think it is because I am not trying to stretch the limit on big fat round gollywolly heads....

Eileen Baird'sBears
Toronto
Posts: 3,873

bear_thumb Good advice, everybody! :hug:

Anytime you need to match a piece cut on the bias to a piece cut on the straight grain, there's going to be some 'easing' necessary. You could always stay-stitch the bias piece, of course.  bear_tongue I've wrecked so many quilt blocks in the past that I'm always extra careful!

I love the idea of using bias-cut pieces for a bit of extra fullness!

Eileen

psichick78 Flying Fur Studios
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 3,073

Oh wow guys, Great tips. But I'm left with a couple of questions

What is a stay-stitch?? Is that the same as basting?

And, please don't laugh, pleeease. What do you mean the bias?? Which way is that??

I am glad that you gals do have to do some easing. I find that mostly true when I do the footpads and the gusset/nose part. I really hope to create my own pattern that doesn't need alot of easing.

Judi writes
"When you are sewing, depending how you insert your needle, you can unknowingly be easing one side of your sewing...hence, one side of your head gusset is longer then the other."
So is the best thing to make sure you insert your needle straight into both pieces??

Penny, great tips, Thanks. I'm like you, when I've made another artists pattern, I also thought the pattern was wrong, but it was just me not knowing.

I like the idea of leaving the gusset a little longer, just in case. I've found there are a few drastically different ways of fitting the gusset to the side pieces, and I usually end up doing both sides different.

Dilu, great idea to write as if that person has never sewn an inch. I was one of those before.

And everyone else, thanks. Back to the drawing board.

Heather

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